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Why is it not permitted to have joint prayer?


"My dear ones, there are Canon of our Church that forbid joint prayer with heretics. Of course, those who support joint prayer talk about love. Yes, but love, as the New Testament points out must be in Truth... and Truth means Orthodoxy... Why is it not permitted to have joint prayer? Because this prayer is not in Truth... I will remind you of what I have told you countless times: ecumenism is deceitful and it progresses in stages. Its first step is to achieve the [false] union of Christians, and then to achieve the union of Christians with Muslims and afterwards with the idol-worshipers. They are deceitful, they proceed progressively, step by step."

-- Fr. Athanasios Mitilinaios


Additionally, from Saint Ephraim of Katounakia: "Ecumenism does not have the Holy Spirit, but the unclean spirit."


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Nikos
2 hours ago

Do the canons permit joint prayers with those who have relinquished the traditional patristic calendar in favor of the papal calendar (so-called Revised Julian Calendar) since those latter, tampering with the calendar, sometime skip the Apostles Fast entirely when the Feast of the Apostle (June 29 according to church calendar) falls before the Fast actually begins (example the year 2002) ?


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Odysseus
5 hours ago

I see nothing definitive in this article that supports an answer to the question that was headlined.

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marksigfrinius5@gmail.com
6 hours ago

I understand that we should not even consider praying with the ecumenism movement. Being a convert to Orthodoxy I still have Protestant friends. How do we occasionally escape from even a funeral when they pray? These folks are not interested in ecumenism at all. (99% that I know of).

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Odysseus
5 hours ago
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Well, thats what happens when a person is a “converrt” to anything . They get all knotted up in the legalistic aspects of dogma , And risk becoming super fanatical. Just remember the issues that the people had with one another during Jesus’s time. It was Samaritan vs jews or vise versa. Or Jesus eating with tax collectors aka “publicans”.

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Art Samouris
8 hours ago

So very true. Unfortunately some of the GOA hierarchy and hierarchy abroad are pushing this deceit publicly, mocking those who hold to the Truth of the Orthodox Christian Church.

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Odysseus
4 hours ago
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So very true? Explain How is it “so very true”? And how do YOU know those “who hold to thd truth of the Orthodox Church “?

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Symeon
8 hours ago

It is SO very hard to avoid this path, given that so many jurisdiction (even if not necessarily at the level of each individual parish) partake of this, probably (for the most part), rather innocently. Joint prayer, membership with the WCC, "love rooted in false truth", all these sadly contribute to diluting our faith. Pray for us, sinners.

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